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Speaking of Whitey.. Stick your Band of Horses comments here.

         

horses: not nearly as dumb as i would've thought. still pretty mediocre though.

i heard the band was all set to go with a director and great treatment, when at the last minute they said "hey, instead of doing your idea, can you just film us playing baseball?" the director said 'No thanks' and whitey was brought in to bring this 'vision' to life.

         

Not big on the Thermals video. But the Band Of Horses video is great -- and it makes me miss summer in Seattle.

RE: Director who turned them down based on the band wanting to go with their own idea: is the video for the director or for the band? Huh. I'm glad they went with this.

         

Is that Panther hanging out in there?

         

the band has the right to do whatever they want... but it must be frusturating when they change their mind after they tell a director they like his treatment and want to shoot it and he begins pre-pre-pro on it.

and it was for him - he works in commercials and wanted to do a band of horses video for his reel.

when there's no money to be made the worst thing you can do is make something you're not confident about creatively.

         

Yeah, if the job doesn't involve a large enough budget to try something fun, and you won't even be making any money, it must be hard to get excited about a barely-decent (although cute) idea from a band.

         

Sorry guys, but the band should always have final say in a video -- and yes, it's too bad for the director that they changed their minds, but ultimately, it's their image on the line.

         

I got a Thermals album once, didn't like it. But this video makes me like them more. Fun, and yes it does have Panther in there, which is way cool.

Band of Horses, however, looks like they're having more fun than me. Which is just wrong, man.

         

Softball is a boring sport and Band of Horses I find to be a boring band, but the video is shot well.

         

Whoa, deja vu

         

yeah, but most bands are idiots when it comes to videos, that's mostly why they're in a band and not directors. within reason, they should stick to what they do best i.e. make the songs and collaborate with and trust directors to do what they do best i.e. make the videos.

         

Colin Meloy (The Decemberists) is also in the Thermals video :)

         

If a director has been brought on board, one would like to think it's because the band/label respect, admire and dig what the director is about, not solely because of the idea. Therefore if there are any changes, which obviously happens from time to time, the director should still be invited to contribute.

Yeah at the end of the day, it is the band up on the screen. But we all know what can happen when a video is controlled by the wrong people...

         

Of course. And by this account, he was invited to continue directing the video -- but because it wasn't his own idea, he didn't want to.

To me, this is one of the problems with some music video directors; placing their own ego and concepts before the primary focus, which is - or should be - the music, and the band, and the way in which the band wants their music to be visualized.

I am probably picking the wrong forum in which to make these comments. ;)

         

Fair enough. But it's a two way thing right? Just as the band have the right to change their minds, so must the director (when plans change).