Be a videomaker for the new Four Tet video!
After collaborating with Bpitch Record and Ellen Allien & Apparat - Orchestra Of Bubbles project QOOB teams up with Domino Records for a new amazing video online competition
Be a videomaker for the new Four Tet videoclip!
Now QOOB TV and Domino Records give you the chance to think, create and shot the video for A Joy (Remix) , the new Four Tet single from the new Four Tet – Remixes double cd out now.
Download the song from QOOB TV to create your own clip for the song and upload it on www.qoob.tv< , the winner, chosen by the same Four Tet, will have the chance to see his video on QOOB TV and an amazing video mixer Edirol V4.
More info on it.qoob.tv
This contest ends the 10th of February. What are you waiting for? Qoob yourself…
Yes, yes, yes... lets make a video just for fun. And upload it. And you will chose the best. And i will get "rich and famous"... o wait. I will get famous, right. So loveley. I want to shot a video and i'm doing this for free.
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there's a 500 bucks digital video player as first prize. if you win you'll be able to get a deal with domino and speak with them about a proper contract. we are not trying to cheat on anybody guys just trying to find new directors that rock...best regards
qoob: Please, please post a higher-quality, non-flash copy of Way Out.
where's 30f?
not sure how domino, which is a record company can sort out a 'proper contract' for a music video director. Unless they have in-house directors which seems highly unlikely? What EXACTLY is the 'deal' with domino?
after having found a winner he/she will be in touch with domino. the record label and the director will speak each other to find an economic (or not) solution good for both parts. exploiting people creativity isn't a clever idea. never. even for the cruel music biz :). hope to see many of you sending their stuff. bye
Quick question. Has anyone actually ever seen the winning videos for any of theses contests? Is the Decemberists contest decided yet? I hate to be cynical, but isn't this just a great way to drum up publicity for a band, get some exposure for the focus track, and get a specific demographic to feel some kind of special connection to the band/album, all without spending a dime? I feel like the press release for the call for entries is always the most visible part of these contests. Where's the press release for the winners?
My advice for a new director:
Don't waste your time on a video that has to compete with others to become 'official.' You'd be better off finding a band who is interested in you, and doing a spec video for them. At least then, it's guaranteed to go on their website and get the blessing of the label. Plus, you could get the band in it, and they could pull a bunch of favors (e.g. bring fans to a venue).
There are a ton of awesome labels that don't have budgets for videos but are loaded with great bands.
I'd rather see Domino invest $5000 into funding 5 different videos for $1000 each; maybe shoot them like a 48-hour film fest. I bet they could easily get 5 'name' directors (especially if they approached them without the need for a treatment).
And then have a vote at the end which is the best (and becomes the one serviced to TV channels?) but all 5 end up official videos and get thrown on a DVD like "Directions" or the Willowz one.
hear hear. what everyone else said.
I can "have the chance to see my video on QOOB TV." Wow. I can get my video on a website no one's ever heard of? Exciting. And on a "video mixer Edirol V4." Where is this video mixer? In someone's basement? Thrillsville.
cpt marco is right.
Has anyone thought about the people who actually run these contests? Qoob, radar, etc.
It's fairly obvious that they're the real winners.
With each one of these 'contests' they're able to drum up free PR and free promo work for a label. At the close of each one, the people behind "qoob" now have instant cred with the label - and other labels like it.
It's obvious that they're not looking for "new directors that rock". That's a pr phrase qoob utilizes to feign interest and involvement in something they could barely care about.
For anyone looking to "be in touch with domino", here's their email. Drop them a mutherfuckin line.
CAPTAIN: I agree to everything you're saying except the 48 hour thing. Just because the gig is low budget, doesn't mean it has to be insanely compromised by time. Besides have you ever seen anything made at those fests even worth a shout? I sure havent.
In my experience as someone who has worked as a producer, rep, and director this is spec work no matter how you cut it. This isn't just a a music video problem. I feel like every ad firm in the world is all over this so called "consumer created content."
Again its spec work!!! Spend very little money to get as many ideas as possible and use the one you like if any. And in this case the ideas are actually fully made projects. I can certainly understand how these contests can seem appetizing for both creators and the labels or clients... bottom line is it devalues the process.
Above someone mentioned the notion of spending 5k and getting 5 videos @ 1k a piece and in fact getting top directors to do that. That may be even worst than straight up asking for the free work (contests). I'm sure everyones intentions are great but if the best ideas everyone has anymore is for fans to make the work for a pat on the back we have some problems.
I'm a fan of Fourtet. I'm a fan of Domino. I'm a fan of having a job to buy their records (cause I still buy music). These trends mean I don't have a job to buy their records.
it's called "wikinomics" and it's all the rage in the business world right now (and unfortunately filtering down to record labels as well). As quixoticnyc said "consumer created content" isn't going away for a long long time. read more at: www.wikinomics.com
My question: How effective has consumer created content been so far? As it relates to mv's, fan-made videos - while very popular at the moment - have not succeeded in amplifying anyone's career significantly - artist, label, director. These contests become just another note on a CV/reel/press sheet. I agree with quix and c-marc: it's spec work.
Am I right in saying that the Warp / Creative Review contest is the standard-bearer for this type of thing? It's the only contest I can think of where serious talent has been uncovered in this format - but I'm not thoroughly informed in creative contests, so I may be wrong.
I certainly hope creatives aren't naïve enough to think that one contest will launch their career, unless Domino is more serious about nurturing directorial talent than they have previously let out. While they commission great vids, they don't have a reputation quite like Warp.
But, in the end, I'm not sure this contest is exactly aimed at the people who have already commented here. Maybe for those who are lurking..
Props to Qoob and Radar for trying. I think their heart is in the right place.
I agree with a lot of the comments on this in theory, but my own experience is different. I entered one of these contests for 'thefirstpost.co.uk' last year, won some cash, and (to my surprise) got a lot of exposure which led directly to me getting my first directing job on a music video. I guess if you're not someone who's already doing this stuff professionally, then these contests can be pretty good.
Prediction: 2007 will be the last year for these types of contests. They've devolved into little more than lazy press oppurtunities, and the novelty value they had in 2006 is quickly wearing off. Will fans of the band even care about watching the winning video? What's the difference between watching the winning video and watching the other hundred home made videos on youtube that are scored with Four Tet's music?
Hello All.
I work for Domino Records in the US. I am actually not familiar with this Four Tet contest, it was news to me when I read about it on Antville. So i can't comment on it. But i can comment on a new Junior Boys video contest we have running now on the website imeem.com. In fact I just posted a video that i made for the song "In The Morning" yesterday. I can say that this is the FIRST video contest that we have setup in the US.
I don't want anyone to think that we are looking for people to make our official videos for free or for super cheap. We aren't trying to "use" people for their creative talents. We hire directors all the time to make official videos for us. In fact, we are ALWAYS looking for new and interesting directors. Depending on the band and project we can spend a lot to a little to commission a video. Don't ever hesitate to reach out to us about your talents. Send your reels, send your links, we are always on the lookout. We recognize the time, energy, talent and cost that goes into making a good video and we commission accordingly.
We also know that video contests ask a lot from contestants. It took me over 20 hours to make my "In The Morning" video and i am not even eligible. But that's not really the concept for this video contest. We aren't looking for videos that we can use professionally. We are just attempting to give people a fun avenue to try something new and creative for a band that they might be a fan of. We know that $1000 is nothing to an established director, but that's not who this contest is for. Take a look at the way we structured the contest. juniorboys.imeem.com. We left it as open ended as possible. Mash ups, stock footage, etc. everything is fair game. It's for first timers as much as it is for semi-pros. It's just a way to motivate people to be creative.
Your thoughts are all very interesting on this subject though. I'd love to hear what your opinions are on the Junior Boys Imeem.com contest. We spent a lot of time trying to make a video contest interesting. Is it interesting to the video makers of the world? Any insight is welcome.
Take Care,
Peter Domino Records
kev- I don't know the details, but it seemed like the the 2nd Warp/Creative Review contest just sort of collapsed. Warp announced the 10 'winners' in 8/05 but never posted the completed pieces together, while a few eventually showed up on antville and such. This means that either a bunch of people flaked out, or that warp deemed some of the videos unacceptable. I agree that that sort of pre-selcetion dignifies and encourages the directors' efforts more than and open call for final pieces, but it is still quite far from "a job."
Visual artists who want to make stuff will make stuff. And with forums like antville, hopefully, the good ones will be recognized. I feel like these random video contests can help focus what are still very personal efforts. If not a music vid, then it is a short with music you "borrowed" or had a friend compose. No harm done unless the contest actually takes away the director's rights.
Speaking of which, that Radar Festival thing is supposed go down very soon (which involves Warp and Domino). It will be interesting to see what sort of results that produces.
Hey Peter, I've been in your position before and I'm sure your intentions are well meaning. My big concern with these types of contests are the type of people that enter them. They seem to have their expectations set a little too high and as a result, it seems to take advantage of them. It's not your problem if these people are dillusional, it's just sad. The most you can do is be up front with the rules, structure and measurable benefits to the winner, which it seems like you are doing.
Have you considered creating a contest with a little more at stake for the label and band? How about structuring a contest where you solicit treatments from unsigned directors with a set budget? Even if the budget was only $2500. Have directors summit treatments , reel, other supporting work and budget breakdown.
"put ur muhnee ware ur mouf iz"
Add Incubus to the list...
Im pretty much lost for words. Just clicking that incubus link and reading the posted copy on that site is unreal... the opening paragraph is pretty damn insulting to people making videos. And then of course we're told by paragraph 2 how Incubus are interested in "user created content." Sad sad music buisness.
It feels black hole-ish. Become a big shot music video director, then find the floor vanishing under your feet because of what you just did.
I was looking at the Incubus site last night with a few friends and when we clicked over to see the submitted videos (only 16 so far, with just a few more days to go in the contest), they all seemed to range between 'boring' and 'trainwreck'. What happens if these are the best entries? Will the label really let the winning video represent the band and the song by submitting it to the networks? I think the main problem with these contests, is that even though there are tons of amateur directors and after effects artists out there, there are very few that can actually turn in something that even comes close to professional looking work. Really, what's the point?
My prediction: The winner gets to show their video on the front page of incubus.com for a week, and label caves in and gets Marc Webb to direct the 'official' version.
IcedTea: Bit of a late response.... but check out...
... then select your country.
There are thousands, but a bit of research will almost certainly yield a handful of labels with upcoming bands that you like.
Also use myspace or lastfm to get directly in touch with the bands. It doesn't really matter if the video gets on TV. Stick it on Antville. I'm sure that half the music video industry is watching!
