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interesting....

         

I've posted this up for a number of reasons...

At first I was highly sceptical about the 'appropriating someone elses film for my own video' thing... ...but then realised I'd seen it whilst wasted last week and loved it!!

So the fact that I don't wholly approve of nabbing someone's film was blown out of the water by the fact that it actually perfect for the track. I'd much rather see this than Gary Lightbody lying on a pavement pretending to cry.

Robert Hales continues to pull little (well... and big!) surprises out of the bag!

         

agree with onesmallkreeger but preferred the soundtrack of the original film. um...

         

watch medium cool by haskell wexler for a very similar opening shot through the streets of NYC. Of course he was 100% influenced by the french new wave. Well brought to our attention da.....i mean onesmallkreeger. A fantastic tracking shot that defies the traffic police of gay paris

         

ah, a-morphic... got any links for the haskell film?

I spoke with a commissioner about this earlier and they hate this video... but they acknowledged it's mainly to do with their taste in music (hmmm... don't get that much... [sorry couldn't help myself!]) apparently it's 'great with the sound off.'

So it's Robert 0- Claude 1 as far as that label's concerned!

Love Dan x (you can click my email link and it brings my name up...)

         

I usually like Hales's work but, dayumm. How do you put your own name on LeLouch's movie? I know it synchs up well and it sure is pretty, but that is really not the "work" of the video director, is it?

I know other directors have pitched Rendezvous ideas before, but I believe those involved re-shooting the driving POV concept, not simply laying the classic film in over the track.

Maybe this will be good for Snow Patrol attention-wise. One would hope it is a cost effective solution to making a video. Kay should have thought of this for "God's Gonna Cut You Down" and put in Sonny Corleone getting gacked at the tollbooth from Godfather. I'm gonna go and play "The Wall" whilst watching Willy Wonka.

         

i don't agree it's perfect for the track. the whole visual content is a hmm.. "constant flow" (the car is going from point a to b without any obstacles, slow downs, action etc) while the track has a different chorus and verse.. the atmosphere increases until the end of the track, it's more like a story and the video doesn't show it much. To me it's always a serious mistake - when the visuals don't match with the construction of a song!

         

We can obviously diagree on this. I never said it was terrible, but that seems to be the point pretzel was refuting. Read my comment again (if you care that much) - I was noting that it did not seem particualrily creative and especially NOT the work of the video director. That is a film by Claud LeLouch, even if you take out the glorious Ferrari sfx.

And additionally, the above film is almost certainly way too boring to get on television (at least in the US). I don't think the record buying public (early teen females) gives a rodent's hindquarters about high-speed Frenchy driving from before they were born. Maybe dedicated fans of the band and the film-geek types (myself included) here on the intrawebs will notice, but this video is certainly NOT gonna help the band sell any more records. Is that now less important than getting approving beatnik snaps from us commenters?

         

I think that the original film (i belive it was called Rendezvous) does go with the track. The simple fact is theres something just wrong about claiming a film that has been around for thirty years or so as original work when placed in a music video context.

was I the only person who watched it a few times to try and work out if anything clever had been CGi'd a la star guitar en route??

         

Wow!?

I really liked this when it was Low Vs. Diamond video.

Come on Snow Patrol.

Good review of Low Vs. Diamond for when you love their song.

         

I would sure love to know who editied this. Great editing!

Ridiculous.

         

30f is right, no one will play this, and very few will sit through the whole thing on the internet. No matter how cool it looks, the concept just lacks authenticity. It's like the fan-made video idea; it works as marketing, but not as an actual video, because people don't want to watch something that doesn't seem to actually come from the band.

         

SPIT: "because people don't want to watch something that doesn't seem to actually come from the band."

I don't think that's true. Pinning what an audience wants out of a music video is soooooo rediculous considering the waning interest, lucre, and popularity of the medium as a whole.....

In middle school I could rattle an easy dozen videos off the top of my head that I thought were awesome. I have all younger brothers (now in middle school) and they could barely name a handful of videos, let alone ones they like.......

         

...so does Robert still get his 10% cut?

         

I find the use of this frustrating for two reasons...

Firstly, I dont see how one can just combine someone elses film with a music track and yet use their name as "director". What direction was involved? Telling the flame operator to put that aif under the film and play it out to tape?

Secondly, "The Rendezvous" itself is such a farce. People use it as some example of pure motoring nirvana back when you could get away with things but in fact if you have any interest in anything automotive you can see that the car is actually travelling at a snails pace. The audio of the original film I suspect was recorded by jacking a Ferrari up on to axle stands or running it on a rolling road and trying to "drive" it to the visuals almost like an automotive foley artist. Rumour has it that the car used was actually an old Mercedes sedan :)

I have loved cars my whole life and am an avid film-maker however have always disliked "Rendezvous" with a passion.... However this film deserves some admiration.....

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I think this works for the track but if i were the band i'd feel cheated. Surely rendezvous is a better film with its original farrari engine soundtrack. To take the video out of context and slap on your own track clouds the idea behind the visual reducing it to somthing you might play as a projection in a club 'because it looks good to music'. Its a brave thing to do though.

         

Funnily enough, this got more playlist ads in the UK than any other Snow Patrol video before it....so it will get a shitload of airplay...

         

This sort of thing is the height of duplicity. This is someone else's footage, not even re-edited or rethought. Simply add music and go. It seems a bit immoral from a creative standpoint. Perhaps you will belly ache all you like about creative freedom and making comment on old footage in new contexts, but this is a single shot opening of a film abused for purposes of a band's PROMO, basically a commercial endeavor. Whoever Robert Hales is ought to be ashamed of himself for allowing someone to marry his name to LeLouch's. Disgusting.

         

it's fascinating to watch. but if you know on what it is based... you cannot do this. it's not ok to me.