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Liars - "Plaster Casts Of Everything"

Directed by Patrick Daughters.
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kevathens, 26. July 2007, 18:27
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casspix, 26. July 2007, 18:40
this is the shit. i mean really. kick fucking ass. nice job. Daughters rules.
         
moderndrifter, 26. July 2007, 18:53
YES. song is YES. video is YES. hell fucking YES.
         
captainmarc22, 26. July 2007, 19:30
somebody stop this man! too damn good.
         
hakai, 26. July 2007, 20:47
amazing!
         
kureman2, 26. July 2007, 21:34
I stand by my orginal comment some posts back, that Patrick Daughters has been watching to many Gondry videos. I still love him, but if your not seeing the influence then youre fucking blind. I like the Karen O cameo. At least I think thats her.
         
alan hansen, 26. July 2007, 21:43
hmmmm as tom hanks once said.... i don't get it.
         
progosk, 26. July 2007, 23:10
v intense, tho strangely slight at the same time. (2 minds about this.)
         
ai, 27. July 2007, 00:12
A bit messy IMO. The "lost highway" type of effect/situation in itself has been seen so many times i waited for something to happen.
And the average compositing spoiled the in-camera effects.
         
kevathens, 27. July 2007, 00:22
Neat but kinda disturbing, and yeah messy.

Who knew Burning Down the House (and Karma Police) would lead to this?
         
lax, 27. July 2007, 03:02
This is shot pretty well, although Daughters does get a min of 100k US budget for his vids these days so it should look good.

It's certainly a cool looking song / video combo, but for those of you on this site who like to hark on about originality, Daughters certainly borrows heavily like many others. This whole idea has been certainly fully lifted. Daughters makes cool videos (except for that Mika big girls one - which was horrible) however he is most certainly a borrower rather than a true original voice. He watches alot of gondry and certainly spends alot of nights in watching Lynch / Cronenberg features amongst numerous others. However that said he is certainly still really good just not very original.

It was an enjoyable watch!
         
familiar, 27. July 2007, 03:04
"He watches alot of gondry and certainly spends alot of nights in watching Lynch / Cronenberg features amongst numerous others."

Too true. It's these influences that are turning me off these days, rather than generating any kind of excitement.
         
shatner, 27. July 2007, 13:48
interesting that everyone is now starting to talk about influences on this thread. I think Glazer's Karma Police is getting a nod on this one.

accusing any director working today of 'watching too much gondry' is like accusing a photographer was looking at too much Steiglitz, or modern artist of copying Duchamp. In every medium you have people who by virtue of being far too fucking excellent actually change what that medium is/becomes.
         
kureman2, 27. July 2007, 15:47
Looking at works of Alfred Stieglitz is learning about the history of Photography. I wouldn't say there are Photographers out there that are ripping off his style, though i'm sure people have been influenced by his work in the past. Looking at works of Gondry are completely different though. You can See that Gondry Has Created his own style and branded it. It's so unique that anything close to it is obviously taken from watching a Gondry film. Anyone that creates something like what Daughters did with the Projections has clearly just taken Gonry's Idea and recycled it rather then making it his own. Gondry's work is too stylized to do such a thing. I'm all for using art and video to come up with new ideas. Imitation is the best form of flattery. But this is too blatant. If he is going to be influenced by Gondry, which he clearly is, then make a video with elements Gondry hasn't done before, not Projections on people.
         
kevathens, 27. July 2007, 15:53
Yeah it does feel like Gondry has cast a really massive shadow. I do think things like Ankle Injuries work well despite the Gondry thing, though.
         
shatner, 27. July 2007, 16:27
with all due respect, I don't think that projecting on people is a 'style', or indeed something that gondry owns. there i've said it. lets take this outside.
         
lusk81, 27. July 2007, 18:29
Aside from the Lost Highwayness of it all, this actually felt very much so like an albertin video.
         
presidentofvice, 27. July 2007, 19:12
just for the record, the budget on this was quite low. nowhere near 100k.
         
ai, 27. July 2007, 19:19
People should watch the talking heads vid someone posted here before claiming gondry did it first. Back projections (or retro projections whatever you call it) were used since the dawn of cinema, gondry used the technique and yes somehow branded it. But the climate in this vid is really not gondry and plenty of artists did the facial projection (tony oursler etc). IMO the gondry thing is irrelevant.
But it always feel good to talk trash on daughters whenever you can because he's good :D .
         
sgf_jason, 27. July 2007, 19:42
The story I heard was that Patrick and Shawn were playing around with the projectors on Bright Eyes and thought this looked cool so PD pitched it for the Liars. Surely PD shouldn't be expected to let that idea go because Gondry did a similar technique in a totally different video years before.
         
kureman2, 27. July 2007, 19:55
Years before? What happened to that Paul McCartney video.
         
sgf_jason, 27. July 2007, 20:32
right, was thinking of white stripes. point still stands though
         
fancypants, 27. July 2007, 23:37
i think this is an amazing video. beautifully and intricately edited by Mike Colao.
         
familiar, 27. July 2007, 23:53
Video game (and computer) message boards have users they refer to as "fanboys". What are they called on here? Shall we call the Karma Police?
         
jeeesus pimp, 28. July 2007, 15:53
This video is solid and has an interesting dynamic, I really don't think it borrows too much stylistically, (or from Gondry in particular… as opposed to a certain video by family I watched earlier in the week here) and if it does, It’s for the right reasons.
         
shatner, 28. July 2007, 18:41
small point, but the mccartney video didn't have any projections in it. just reflections in glass.
         
casspix, 28. July 2007, 19:47
jeeeze, give the guy props aleady, gondry doesn't own "projections", no one owns "projections". recycled, copying,whatver, the video is fucking great. kudos daughters. and the fact that budget was small even better. bravo!
         
chatters, 28. July 2007, 22:54
dear god what is wrong with everyone. it is impossible not to be influenced by what has gone before but to me this does not feel like a copy or rehash of anyone else's idea.
in fact it feels like a raw and instinctive reaction to a track which was crying out for something dark, weird and mental.
not often enough these days do videos really reflect the core of the music. this one goes right to its guts and reacts accordingly. i couldn't tear my eyes away.
         
gatzby, 29. July 2007, 07:28
This is more than just influence - It's called a blatent tax!

For everyone at home, get a large pot, place Karma Police, with a good serve of Dead Leaves on Dirty Ground and finish it with a dash of Lost Highway... and Wholah! You have Liars 'Plaster Casts of Everything'

please.......
         
75, 29. July 2007, 07:58
this forum might be better utilized encouraging our colleagues who, despite what you may think of thier work or its originality, are trying to perfect their chosen craft.
         
welovemusique, 29. July 2007, 13:26
Wholah = Voila? Never seen it spelled that way before! (sorry, got nothing to add to the ongoing convo)
         
kevathens, 29. July 2007, 14:16
To be specific, I don't see any Gondry in this one at all. You watched the Burning Down the House link, right? That's a much more apt comparison, if one is needed.
         
familiar, 30. July 2007, 06:17
Don't see Gondry either. Lots of Lynch to be sure. Plenty of Glazer's "Karma Police". The video doesn't suck or anything... it's just not spectacular to me.
         
adam egypt mortimer, 30. July 2007, 09:28
i like it.

feels nothing like a gondry, and aren't videos 90% about the feeling you generate? being able to create the mood / atmosphere / emotion that you imagine is a major skill for directing videos, and it seems he's hitting what he's trying to hit in this.
         
otaku-house, 30. July 2007, 10:59
oh come on dude. like adam said, it's about emotion. both have used some similar techniques, ones going way back to the dawn of cinema. you think gondry has never seen any vertov?

patrick ultimately has an aesthetic and emotional texture all his own. that's what matters. it's probably one of the reasons behind his success - he isn't doing a third rate imitation of gondry's handmade aesthetic / stop motion when there are people doing that.

and the guaranteed 100k thing is laughable. even gondry doesn't get that. it's tough out there right now.
         
loz, 31. July 2007, 18:07
i don't see the gondry at all... i can see the lynch reference, and the talking heads (now THAT'S a dope video)... but mostly i just see a wicked wicked very dark and quite disturbing video that i like.
interesting how the projected face works a lot better on the front of his face i reckon, and when on the girl? like maybe it has to have a slightly clean slate... looks like the technique is quite hit and miss, or maybe you just can't appreciuate it all ona shitty pootube link. gimme high quality!!

props to PD, and big up Mike Colao (he da man).
         
jeeesus pimp, 12. August 2007, 02:30
yes obvious in its influences but a pleasing mix that works for the song. Everybody gets their ideas from something they have seen before these days but it is how you mix or add to these influences and relate it to the feeling you are looking for that makes or breaks a video. I think patrick daughters has succeeded in this. I dont know about the 100k thing (i really doubt the liars would have put that much $ into a video considering they have made pretty much all their other videos for themselves) but i think daughters would be able to pull quite a few favours and thus be able to punch out a high quality video for 20 or 30k.
         
kevathens, 12. December 2007, 14:35
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