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Pfadfinderei

i never really see any attention given to VJs on here so heres one for you all. www.pfadfinderei.com


         
lusk81, February 7, 2005 4:36:49 AM CET

VJ's? These are just poor silhouettes juggling a square.


         
replay, February 7, 2005 3:19:35 PM CET

you obviously have no concept of the skill behind vjing and therefore your ignorance has shone through with your comment!


         
lusk81, February 7, 2005 6:05:03 PM CET

REPLAY: VJ = Video/voice jockey...? Or is this to mean some sort of abstract for voice overs?

Because fuck whether or not if my "ignorance has shone through", your posting of this piece displays abominable taste.

Boring. Cheap. And entirely unwatchable.


         
replay, February 7, 2005 7:04:01 PM CET

it means video jockey, nothing to do with vioce overs how could you not know that? oh well, suppose some people dont like new progressive art? and if this is abominal taste what fuck are you? i expect you are one of those gondry ass lickers who havent got past the stuff i was looking at when i was at school. do u even realise it is created completely live? i expect you dont realise the technology used to create this peice cos if you did and you were a true fan of music video and moving image u would have complete respect for what it is, but i doubt you ever venture beyond your fousty geek hole of a bedroom, let alone create your own taste in music or art, just one of the sheep that are so common in this world. people like you make me laugh!


         
captainmarc22, February 7, 2005 10:33:53 PM CET

I'm a Gondry Ass Licker.

this video is stupid. Inspiration is not Maya Deren or Chris Marker but those stylish Apple iPod ads. Viva la Avante Garde!


         
lusk81, February 7, 2005 10:59:48 PM CET

REPLAY:

it means video jockey, nothing to do with vioce overs how could you not
know that?

So I was right, a VJ is a video jockey. Again, where are the VJ's? These look like poor silhouettes juggling a square. And I always thought VJ's were those assholes on MTV or that DJ's sidekick who would always scream nonsense into a mic during a rave. I had no idea that bad ipod ripoffs with mashed up hiphop IS ALSO known as a VJ. Thank you replay for teaching me.

oh well, suppose some people dont like new progressive art? and if this is > abominal taste what fuck are you? i expect you are one of those gondry ass > lickers who havent got past the stuff i was looking at when i was at school.

Wait a second, who is gondry?

do u even realise it is created completely live?

Wow. That blows my mind. Holy Christ. Wait hold on, Holy Christ. Wait wait, .....Holy Christ. Wait wait wait, you said they did this live - holy holy holy.

Christ.

i expect you dont realise the technology used to create this peice cos if you > did and you were a true fan of music video and moving image u would have > complete respect for what it is,

You know what, you're right. I'm sure they glued blue balls/dots to their foreheads and genitals and did a motion capture via some mega super computer. Jesus and Mary Chain, how could I be so naive!

OR WAIT! IS THIS GREENSCREEN AND AFTER EFFECTS!?

Oh man was I fucked. Thank you replay.

but i doubt you ever venture beyond your fousty geek hole of a bedroom, > let alone create your own taste in music or art,

Well I'm actually in preproduction on my own bad ipod spot. But I promise, this weekend I'll leave my own "fousty" bedroom to meet up with the boys and kick a square around. After I add a super cool red sihlouette look, I'll post it on this site and proclaim peerless artistic progression. BANG!

just one of the sheep that are so common in this world. people like you > make me laugh!

Well, my friends say I look more mountain goat like than sheepish.


         
breakitdown, February 7, 2005 11:08:12 PM CET

yawn. i've been coming to this site for about two months, and this is the most awful excuse for motion graphics to date. i thought i would watch it for a while to see if the hackey-sackers mutated into another form but after about 5seconds i lost interest. even true vj'ers are not going to defend this.

there are much more interesting things on this site. time to move on.


         
eraserhead, February 8, 2005 12:04:26 AM CET

i agree that pfadfinderei stuff is really boring but, where i come from, berlin, they´re pretty sucessful. actually, everybody says that this people are shit, every fucking body is bored with them, but still, they´re on top. so, congratulations for them, i guess¿


         
mgp, February 8, 2005 2:46:27 AM CET

All the technology of the 21st century at their disposal and they're churning out this glitchy-process-based tinkery which always will be irrelevant and boring to watch.


         
langdonallger, February 8, 2005 4:24:53 AM CET

Wait, what's a VJ?

That was great mr. lusk.


         
killakillafornia, February 8, 2005 4:49:45 AM CET

i feel liek this piece should be like 5 seconds long and then have the mtv or vh1 logo fly in.
it is boring, even if it is live, it just repeats.
black bars, more black bars, more black bars and more black bars.
not to hot, ipod, meets mtv design team meets the stank of my asshole.
it is bad, lusk i agree. as often as we butt heads, youre right.
real vjs can create way better than this...
jake


         
jdub, February 8, 2005 6:38:23 AM CET

Ok...you can take a VJ's shit, put it in a box and mark it guaranteed, but all you'll have is a guaranteed box of VJ shit...even if you're kicking it around like a hippie.

VJing has a long way to go.


         
replay, February 8, 2005 8:25:09 PM CET

it is quite clear to me that people on this site are absolute morons. i joked with my friend saying that i bet some idiot likens it to the ipod advert!! and you did! jesus christ am i talking to sum 15 year olds here that havent seen anything that isnt on tv? i think so and you asked where are the vj's, what are you on about did you expect to see them pop up on the screen? you remind me of all the people at my university, they can spend all day blabbering their asses about bullshit from all these mainstream so called acclaimed directors, but if it came to anything inspirational or interesting there as much use as shit on my shoe.

And I always thought VJ's were those assholes on MTV or that DJ's sidekick who would always scream nonsense into a mic during a rave.

i think you'll find thats called an mc!! man u are such a dumb ass.

why is it you dont have a constructive comment to make that actually has bearing on the debate instead you make the kind of comment i would expect to hear at a school, i suppose it is the result of very poor intelligence on your behalf.
oh well i suppose i'll leave you guys to churn over all the boring shit i have seen a thounsand times in my life before.
have fun!! :)


         
killakillafornia, February 8, 2005 10:44:51 PM CET

well asshole. wehen you post something, you should expect the possibility of people not liking it. dont get a huge stick in your ass when we dont slobber all over ourselves and ejaculate with excitement.
read my prior post. its not good. not just because its live video whatever, but its not good, its boring. if it was 10 seconds it might have been cool, but its too long, and too many of the same style effects.
so ...in my opinion it sucks.
its ok that you like it.
but you have to know, that sometimes people like shitty stuff. i like some videos that suck, i know they do, so i dont get butt hurt when people tell me those videos suck.
and also this is a music video posting site, not a live vj site. if you want to dicsuss the subtle nuances of their performances go to a fan site.

but shut the hell up!


         
binkystick, February 8, 2005 11:16:30 PM CET

I slobbered all over myself and ejaculated with excitement. Am I bad?


         
binkystick, February 8, 2005 11:19:56 PM CET

Actually, what the hell, I'll join in. I watched this when it was first posted and didn't particularly like it, but didn't hate it either, so I just left it alone and didn't post any sort of response. But now that I see this illiterate, egotistical, no talent moron boasting at how awesome this is and how none of us have any taste....I just have to chime in and say this sucks my ass.

Or....no....wait...I got it....this guy's playing a practical joke on us, right? There's no way this guy is for real. I think we've all been fooled, people.


         
langdonallger, February 9, 2005 12:20:00 AM CET

Nah, I've seen him make a few legitimate comments, I think he's serious, which is sort of sad I guess. I wish I went to a school where people talked about directors and stuff...sigh. I'm sad too.

What the hell is VJing?!


         
rohling, February 10, 2005 1:19:07 AM CET

realy it is more exiting & fun doing it then standing in the corner of a club brabbling garbage about visuals, i recommend u give it a try for yourself! there are realy cool tutorial videos by bob ross available to get you in the groove:)

  • ohm

         
frisch, February 26, 2005 9:12:47 PM CET

www.pfadfinderei.com

hello.


         
leixion, March 2, 2005 5:41:35 PM CET

I agree with REPLAY pfadfinderei are doing some amazing stuff. Even though this is not their best visuals they are still ahead of the time and ripping up 99% of the worlds VJ's.


         
leixion, March 2, 2005 5:44:50 PM CET

Also lusk81 has no idea of what's going on outside his front door let alone the digital world. And one of those people that provides vocals for DJ's is called a MC. Does lusk81 need a definition of DJ now.


         
replay, March 2, 2005 8:36:12 PM CET

leixion, you have re-affirmed my ideas that intelligent people exist! thank god for your open mindedness and creative thinking!


         
lusk81, March 3, 2005 3:57:17 AM CET

Leixon, maybe you and Replay can meet up and kick the old square around as well. Talk about the future of video art and record each other sharing in the joy of blue paint enemas while you throw yourself down stairs or propose lap dissolves as part of the pyschic realm now cosmically tranferred to a digital format. Maybe the two of you can take a boat trip overseas and hang with piplotti while the three of you revel in the joy of minidv, color bleeds, digital malfunction(s), and the small wonder of eating toy cars. Blah....

Filming buidlings and adding a mirror effect - kicking around a hackey sack in front of a bluescreen - adding warp effects to CGI scripted tree growths - this is all bullshit intended for the disinterested. If you guys are so pyshced by abstract filmmaking/makers, we are you not posting old Rosselini clips, Eisenstein, Rene Clair and/or the early work of Bunuel (to name a very small few)? Even newschoolers like Jordan Belson or Maya Deren are great - why aren't they in your arsenal? You guys are fighting me over bullshit square kickers.

"Open mindedness" is not a group of people saying 'hot shit' to boring abstraction or poorly filmed videoscapes -- now digitally altered.


         
leixion, March 3, 2005 11:16:01 AM CET

personally i don't really think the pfadfinderei video with the box is the best they have done, but it is still far better than the crap lusk81 enjoys. Lusk81 tell me do you always follow the crowd or just do what mtv tells you.
















 

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