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Any news on getting the search back up running?


         
gregsinora, June 20, 2011 at 1:13:08 AM CEST

Personally I preferred it prior to a few months ago when it only searched titles and not comments.

It's almost impossible to find anything you're looking for that's been posted over 2 years ago since the comment search was added.

It'd be cool to hear other opinions on this...


         
antdude, June 20, 2011 at 1:35:21 AM CEST

Ditto. :(


         
brigs, June 20, 2011 at 3:30:35 AM CEST

yes, better before


         
my name is legion, June 20, 2011 at 9:37:13 AM CEST

without the comments, indeed, just the videos


         
progosk, June 20, 2011 at 2:45:26 PM CEST

problem was the limit on search results - and that all the comments results to wade through was supertedious. so, yeah, less was not perfection, but it was more. my vote: for going back to search in titles only, please.


         
gregsinora, June 20, 2011 at 3:04:19 PM CEST

Yeah, agree the limit of 25 results was an problem before...


         
discoteer, June 20, 2011 at 3:07:33 PM CEST

jap, the old search was perfectly good, imo.


         
kinomu, June 20, 2011 at 4:12:36 PM CEST

site search working only for comments is - quite obviously - a bug. a patch has been written and will be applied at the next opportunity so videos will be searched again. (videos plus comments, as it used to be before the software update, with 50 results.)

for in-depth information on this bug, see code.google.com


         
kinomu, June 20, 2011 at 4:18:45 PM CEST

@ progosk maybe the annoying autoplay could be tackled by a hint above the post a new video-form?

Suggested change:

This site is devoted to music videos only. You can post shorts and commercials on our partner site shortsville. Please use the site search to avoid reposts and turn off autoplay!

(At the moment, site search works only for comments. a patch will be applied at the next opportunity.)


         
progosk, June 21, 2011 at 1:04:01 AM CEST

kino: sadly, i think the vast majority of posters don't bother to read those hints at all; what's worse is that they have no idea that the videos they post come with autoplay turned on. and then, once they've posted, either they don't stick around long enough to notice, and much less to fix it, or else they're too code-illiterate to know how to. (how to: change "autoplay=1" to "autoplay=0".)


         
kinomu, June 24, 2011 at 4:30:25 AM CEST

@ progosk Your pessimism is not without cause, but I think it nevertheless would be good to officially inform that autoplay is unwanted.

It's a matter of fairness to tell the rules up front so newbies can more easily avoid provoking anger, and, who knows, some might in fact read the hint and turn off autoplay.

If you agree, I can set a modified version of the "post a new video"-form online, the main advantage being that new videos can be found with the site search again. (The look is only slightly different, most users wouldn't even notice.)


         
progosk, June 24, 2011 at 7:56:52 AM CEST

kino: please do.


         
najork, June 24, 2011 at 8:11:24 AM CEST

One could also POLITELY ask vimeo to make it more obvious if autoplay is enabled while embedding. It's a sticky setting, within a pulldown tab. Meaning if I check autoplay once then it will be active for all subsequent embeds until I turn it of, and I wouldn't know I;m doing it without bothering to open the tab.


         
kinomu, June 24, 2011 at 12:32:10 PM CEST

najork, it would be great if you could do that!

The modified skin is online now. (I noticed that some newbies disabled comments at their videos up front so I restricted the option to the user progosk.)

Oh, and I removed the link to shortsville because it ended up being used exclusively by spammers.


         
najork, June 24, 2011 at 3:48:59 PM CEST

I've already asked them. vimeo.com More people would need to bringing it up.


         
familiar, June 24, 2011 at 6:19:15 PM CEST

It would not be difficult to parse the content of the posts before they are added to the database and remove autoplay for the more popular video types automatically.


         
progosk, June 25, 2011 at 1:26:41 AM CEST

kino: so everyone now sees what i see, namely: "If you embed a video, please take care that autoplay is turned off! (How To: change "autoplay=1" to "autoplay=0")"?


         
kinomu, June 25, 2011 at 4:53:11 AM CEST

progosk: Yes. The only thing only you should see is the box below the Publish-button.

familiar: That would be a useful functionality, plus the option to entirely discard posts that contain blacklisted names and URLs (e.g. the name of the guy that posts his video every second day to get viral, or dollarvandemos). But frankly, I am afraid our ressources are too limited to allow that in the near future. There are a couple of other ideas what could or should get improved, too.

If there were more administrators (content managers), reposts, non-(music)-videos, spam and e.g. links to viruses (as found 3 days ago) could get deleted faster, autoplay could get turnt off faster. But that's progosk's decision, I have no idea who might eventually be the right for this task.


         
progosk, June 25, 2011 at 9:35:16 AM CEST

kino: "the box below the Publish-button" yes, ok.

regarding upkeep&content management: time has shown this place to be pretty structurally immune, and organically resistant to the various web-pathologies. yes, there is incipient lamery, and some technical annoyances, but more policing is rarely a wise answer. the best cure, methinks, is to drown out the bad by abounding in cool. (that goes for posts and for comments, 'course.)


         
kinomu, June 26, 2011 at 1:42:41 AM CEST

progosk, what are the technical annoyances (besides the slow speed of the search)?


         
progosk, June 26, 2011 at 7:17:05 AM CEST

flakey login memory; lack of in-built html mark-up options (just the basics would be nice); slightly awkward image uploading method - though now that embedding is the norm, that's become less of an issue. generally, a number of little things that a place like metafilter, to cite a cognate example, has learned to hone over the years.


         
familiar, June 27, 2011 at 7:05:14 AM CEST

@kinomu: Do you have anywhere you could easily drop a regex in prior to pushing the form to the database? What language is Antville coded in? If you're running on PHP or Ruby I'd be happy provide a code snippet for this if you'd like.

Also, if you're running PHP I have a bunch of other code that handles automatic resizing of embeds while retaining aspect ratios, etc. Could be useful for you.


         
progosk, June 27, 2011 at 4:05:55 PM CEST

kino: as I'd feared, the anti-autoplay invitation isn't getting much traction - now it's not even only vimeo posts, but some youtube ones come with autoplay pre-selected. is a code-remedy feasible? (best, imho, would be something that detects autoplay=1 and refuses the embed, asking the poster to fix it their end.)
















 

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