ournameismud, December 9, 2005 11:01:36 AM CET
Marie Antoinette trailer by Sofia Coppola
ok, so i get edgy as the next guy about off-topic posts, but i THINK there's some worth in posting the link to the trailer to the new sofia coppola film, Marie Antoinette. the trailer is cut to the song 'age of consent' by new order, and certainly feels somewhat like a clip. it's quite a nice piece, and i'm always fascinated by contrasting period pieces with modern music. i figure posting this might generate some interesting discussion, but if the consensus is so I'll gladly delete it.

20 meg quicktime link -
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that was painful
         
to say the least...
         
Was that a joke? That can't be the actual trailer. It'll turn off hipster fans of lost in translation, people who like period pieces, and fans of new order. I'm not looking forward to this in any way (then again, I hate sofia coppola).
         
please, this site is for haters only, its a decent trailer and most of you will go see it, bitches...
         
delete it.
         
don't delete it: it's a perfect post for this place, ourname.

the footage looks quite beautiful, and i'd fight a duel for sofia's honour after lost in translation - it's the judgement behind the idea of setting it to that track that throws me...
         
No, no, don't delete it, sillies.

That's close to being a weird mashup itself, someone needs to return it to 'normal'.

And I'm confused to why some people here hate Sofia? I liked both her features.
         
Her performance in Godfather 3 is the issue, i believe. although she's been good at buying her street cred back little by little with those 2 features.
         
might not promise a groundbreaking film, but to look at it as a clip is nice: good song & kirsten dunst.
         
Oh, c'mon, how can you judge a movie by such a short trailer? Haters doesn't even begin to describe the venom of comments here. Please keep the sexist/classist sentiment to a minimum or at least make an effort to be informative/constructive. It's just lazy.
         
Here's a lazy comment..."SWEET!"
         
dodgy- bit worried but hell- we all gonna see it- but if she wanted to use a modern song why didn't she go all the way- like
something from Rammstein or Black eye peas? wonder what the track is for when she gets her head chopped off? any ideas?
         
at least this seems like an intentional artistic choice. Has anyone seen that Walk the Line TV spot which downplays the country music and uses a sorta-techno song? Ridiculous.
         
i think it's great how we all get to watch sofia go to film school. and this is her big senior project! yay!

her movies are like looking at a tree, which seems beautiful and true at first. but then you slowly realize it's not a tree, it's just leaves hanging in the air with no branches, trunk , or roots.
         
I fucking love Sofia Coppola. I got a picture of her up on my wall. Seriously. I am also a huge fan of that song. But what the fuck was that? That was like being in school and someone would edit random footage from movies to Radiohead. Something can't be right. I got to agree with kev. Its some weird mashup or something. Or possibly the whole movie is just 25 music videos in a row. That might just be the first one. I hope that there are a couple My Bloody Valentine videos thrown in there if it is.

by the way, Arno as far as you bagging on my girl in GF3, she fucking saved that shit. How you like me now?
         
remember that movie "knight's tale" that was all scored with rock music? shit.

this trailer leads one to believe her movie is going to be all modern/period twist. which IS dumb.

but it IS just a trailer. i liked "lost in translation" because the story created enough tension to engage me. maybe this movie will have a good story?

that said, this trailer is the filmic equivalent to saying to everyone "let them eat cake".
         
I don't know guys, after watching it again I think girls are going to eat this movie up! Its a young love story set in an older time but made for modern times. Whats wrong with that? I hate rules. Good job Sofia.
         
That made me laugh, not in a mocking way. I feel protective of that song, but that usage was good.

I don't understand all the hostility towards Sofia. It's not even like her films claim to understand much outside of being a spoiled rich girl. At worst, she just lets Lance Acord do his thing.

captainmarc22- Are you talking about that guitar loop that sounds like 'Loser?' That ad bugs me too.
         
WHAT'S WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE?


         
hey precious, so every great director has to go to film school- thanks for the tip- how archaic - she is a good director- just stop bitching.
         
no, who would go to film school when you can just ask dad for money to make a feature?

what is a good director to you, warhero? somebody who puts together a string of pretty pictures? with non-offensive middle-brow themes and emotions to cover you like a nice warm blanket?
         
Kirsten Dunst can cover me like a warm blanket any day.
         
I understand your point of view Precious but I just feel like she has a style and that is something that one should not knock- but are you really suggesting that lost in translation was just a bunch of pretty pictures?? I presume that David gordon green is not in your top ten either- but he did go to film school- so I bet he is o.k by you.?
         
film school is mostly a waste of time and has nothing to do with being a good director. that wasn't the point i was making. i was making the point that her films (and the perspective of her films) remind me of film school cliches.

i like David Gordon Green. i don't understand the comparison. it's like comparing hunter s thompson to vice magazine.

oh crap i don't even care that much. yes, she certainly does have "a style" but her films leave me cold. i guess najork is right, she never claimed to be anything but a rich girl. but i don't get why everybody sucks her dick all the time. her films are shallow. like fashion magazines with one page articles on "make-overs & feminism" in iran.
         
this trailer pains me. much of the charges leveled here remain open questions for me, and i think she has tons of talent and would love to see this film pull her past all the cliches and criticisms. and the music doesn't HAVE to be drearily period: how anachronistic are most morricone scores?

BUT NEW ORDER? this is a favorite song of all time, but it immediately locks this into the rarified hipster target demographic, just for the sake of being flashy and catchy. the same reason jesus and mary chain hooked me for the lost in translation trailer. i suppose it's supposed to show the raucous party-girl aspect of pre-rev France. this could be great, but whoever cut the trailer didn't have enough confidence to let the material do its own work. WHO KNOWS? and the sex pistols font in bright pink? why?

and on second viewing, i note that she may still be establishing character depth by having dunst STARE OUT A WINDOW LONGINGLY, a la johansson in L.I.T. please do more.
         
Sofia's work is pretty polarizing in a strange way. I'm squarely in the hater camp and this trailer did nothing to change that.
Also, I don't find Kirsten Dunst all that attractive. I find her to be more of the spoiled brat type, which might suit her well in this film.
         
you guys are so excited
         
That was ridiculous. I was hoping it would go on a little further and show her execution. A money shot of Kirsten's head bouncing off into the rowdy french mob, set to that stupid music would have made my morning.
         
Haha very true Jesse

Have you noticed this one's gotten a lot of hits from sensibleerection.com?

See, ournameismud? Posts like this are fun for everyone :) I think this post wins the award for the most hilarious comments in a single thread.
         
i'm a little late and bored on xmas day, but do any of you KNOW anything about marie anotinette? if you did the song makes a lot of sense. she was a 14-yr-old girl who was kind of a rebel (and kind of a hipster back in the day) who was basically growing up with all this revolutionary shit around her, and all she wanted to do was have fun and rock out. the song choice is perfect and genius. do your research, dudes.
         
the facts might fit, but that doesn't mean the tune gels with the images. a different style of photography or editing might've helped it come together; but like this it's just a jarring juxtaposition.
         
You can argue about whether the song was the most appropriate choice or not but you can all agree on one thing, it's different.
         
I agree witih kxi -- and I am WAY late -- I love this. I saw it in the theater and googled it to show it to a friend. Yeah, I can see how it would make no sense if you did not know who Marie Antoinette was. Just some people from long ago running around with a rock score from now playing in the background. But when I saw it in the theater I was really moved. I think of M-A as a 30-something woman who was forced to marry a dimwitted king, and who was executed. This trailer made me see you could focus on a different part of this life -- before all that she was a fun-loving kid, a party girl but not a bad person (never did say "let them eat cake"). As a princess of Austria, she was packed off very young to marry a man she had never seen. At court she was laughed at for not being French but also made friends and fell madly in love with a really good guy -- a Swedish diplomat who later tried to save her and her husband and even later was trampled to death by a mob. None of them knew about any of that then. Using the song is saying, yeah, these people were alive, they loved and tried and laughed their heads off (ooh, sorry) like we do now. They have passed on but when they were here they were as real as we are. And had no idea where they were headed, I thought it was a really powerful and original use of music. The punk pink tltle at the end worked in a similar way -- these people were top of the pops and went out in as macabre a way as Sid Vicious and Nancy. But they were real people before they went into the history books, and at one point they were even happy and fun.
         
sofia scathed:
www.guardian.co.uk