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Man, this site used to be so good.

Now it is so not. What happened?


         
leo_b, June 28, 2006 at 7:42:18 PM CEST

there are plenty of interesting videos here, you just have to be more selective these days


         
progosk, June 28, 2006 at 8:30:53 PM CEST

yeah, all these whiners now - used to be people would post interesting videos...


         
spreech, June 28, 2006 at 9:25:24 PM CEST

the times they are a-changin'

but I still like antville

nothing has changed


         
kurse23, June 28, 2006 at 9:50:52 PM CEST

a lone voice in a sea of boring shit...went away for a while, came back, nothing changed. it got WORSE.


         
spit, June 28, 2006 at 10:31:37 PM CEST

This exact comment seems to be posted once a month. I kind of look forward to it.


         
benroll, June 28, 2006 at 10:38:12 PM CEST

It's only as good or as bad as the postings.


         
kurse23, June 28, 2006 at 10:42:06 PM CEST

exactly, and the postings have been baaaaaaaad.


         
progosk, June 28, 2006 at 10:48:59 PM CEST

you're clearly vying for an award y'self...


         
spit, June 28, 2006 at 10:53:39 PM CEST

This is the worst post on videos.antville ever. Really cliche and overwrought. And didn't Gondry ask this same question 5 years ago?


         
kurse23, June 29, 2006 at 1:08:05 AM CEST

progosk - yer a twit.


         
robodrug, June 29, 2006 at 1:30:50 AM CEST

U might be happier on Mark's page kurse?

www.neonbubble.com or here www.chavscum.co.uk


         
kurse23, June 29, 2006 at 3:22:22 AM CEST

and you might be happier here:

www.wibsite.com

I've been posting on this site for YEARS.

I think we should come up with a "24 Hour Challenge" best 5 postings in a row. All quicktime.


         
robodrug, June 29, 2006 at 10:44:58 AM CEST

Says it all then don't it! Think thats one skeleton u shudda kept firmly locked in the cupboard

Kurse 23 wrote

www.wibsite.com

I've been posting on this site for YEARS.


         
benroll, June 29, 2006 at 11:39:08 AM CEST

You must throw down the gauntlet Kurse! Post your 5 and challenge all comers to match them.

(anything that's already been posted on antville is disqualified)

:)


         
kurse23, June 29, 2006 at 6:28:27 PM CEST

I'll Post July 4th @ 8 PM! Let the Games Begin!


         
spit, June 29, 2006 at 7:46:48 PM CEST

This is the dorkiest thing ever, and I can't wait.


         
soapeymad, June 29, 2006 at 9:24:33 PM CEST

Perhaps it is not Video.antville that sucks but the state of music videos itself. The budgets have gone away. The idea that one could successfully transition from video director to feature or even a commercial director has proven itself to be mainly false. Plus, music itself seems pretty anemic these days. If there was music worth being excited about then there would be videos worth being excited about.


         
benroll, June 30, 2006 at 1:41:56 AM CEST

It sometimes seems that the mainstream takes an ever larger slice of the cake while the rest is divided between a greater number of small players. After all if it can happen in business and in society....

But there is plenty of good stuff out there and antville is one of handful of places you can go to find it. Getting swamped with less interesting stuff is the price of popularity.

There's plenty of ways to respond and monthly 'best of' digests and videoville are just two.

The forthcoming Dorkfest is another. What man or woman shall rise to Kurse's challenge....?


         
yakoub, June 30, 2006 at 12:53:51 PM CEST

if you have nothing positive to post about some good video , then it would be as equally interesting to post something negative about some very bad video ...

like fuck them all those american christian oprah Winfrey's kind of pop stars , playing them selves as super humans and then when the cameras aren't filming trashing themselves with the world worst sins and still pray to god the next day


         
benroll, July 2, 2006 at 2:04:19 PM CEST

I'm thinking that the concept of the Dorkfest is fundamentally flawed. The quality problem that Antville has is not that good stuff isn't being posted. You can still see most quality stuff here ahead of the festivals. It's that it's being swamped by sheer volume of lower quality stuff.

Having just scouted about for five quality Quicktimes, I realise how hard it is. The Dorkfest, while a laudable idea, is in essence about speed and volume and quality will most likely suffer.

Another thing: Because of video and music download sales and the increasing bandwidth and advanced compression systems, many production companies are now contractually prevented from offering downloadable Quicktimes. That limits you to either a 30 second clip or using the extraordinarily expensive Quicktime Streaming Server, or going down the SWF route.

If anyone knows a way to publish full high quality Quicktimes that are fully download disabled, but avoid using streaming server, then someone please tell us.

Antville-wise, I reckon the solution to the problem of high volume/low quality is probably monthly 'best of' compilations like we've seen recently.

They're a bit hard to find on videos.antville though. Is it something that could be ported over to videoville somehow? Might boost traffic over there.


         
dek, July 2, 2006 at 4:07:42 PM CEST

If anyone knows a way to publish full high quality Quicktimes that are fully download disabled, but avoid using streaming server, then someone please tell us.

Proprietary formats, with a proprietary player. It's the only way to do it on HTTP: the movie is still downloadable, but it's useless.


         
benroll, July 2, 2006 at 4:28:46 PM CEST

Tech alert:

I'm wondering if there's a way to use cookies and a .htaccess file so that the video can only be seen embedded in an html page on the domain that set the cookie. The htaccess file reads the HTTP header and delivers or doesn't deliver according to the cookie being present in the header.

If you can set a cookie for a domain from another, that's a way round it. Otherwise, I think it's watertight. Apart from screen recorders, obviously.

I thought about using the referrer too, but that can be spoofed and the embed / object command doesn't send a referrer header when requesting the embedded object anyway.

I also thought about a PHP or some server side script that streams the data into an embedded page without revealing the filename. I'm not good enough with server side technologies to know how to do that though. I guess if you can open it in Quicktime then you can see which files it links.


         
dek, July 2, 2006 at 5:38:49 PM CEST

I'm wondering if there's a way to use cookies and a .htaccess file so that the video can only be seen embedded in an html page on the domain that set the cookie.

Once I opened the page on your server, what will prevent me to download the file? (i.e. using the Page Info panel of Mozilla)


         
benroll, July 2, 2006 at 6:04:49 PM CEST

Hi Dek,

I posted a response here for fear that we're veering wildly off topic into true tech terrain!
















 

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