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SIA - The Girl You Lost To Cocaine (Dir. Kris Moyes)

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mva, April 17, 2008 at 6:46:24 PM CEST

oh no...


         
familiar, April 17, 2008 at 7:14:23 PM CEST

:(


         
boey, April 17, 2008 at 7:34:02 PM CEST

Interesting...Gonna have to sleep on how I feel about this one! Always fresh tho!


         
live2rock15, April 17, 2008 at 7:47:12 PM CEST

umm...... no comment


         
shatner, April 17, 2008 at 8:01:27 PM CEST

I watched it from start to finish. So I guess it's good?!

Nice one to Kris Moyes for continuing that fascination with the unfashionable.


         
piore, April 17, 2008 at 8:10:58 PM CEST

you watched it all way thru b/c it's moyes.


         
captainmarc22, April 17, 2008 at 8:32:41 PM CEST

I loved it! So awesome. But damn, you gave away the ending with the still.

I like it, but I wonder what other artists will think. Surely, 99% of bands will see a video like this, and even if they like it, will think "I wonder if we hire Kris Moyes, is he going to make us look ugly and retarded?"

Ad agencies on the other hand, will eat this shit up.


         
moonman, April 17, 2008 at 8:36:14 PM CEST

i liked it i agree with the ending still, you better change it cause it lose a lot of the final impression keep posting lisanowak!


         
lisanowak, April 17, 2008 at 8:50:29 PM CEST

fixed?


         
spit, April 17, 2008 at 9:36:44 PM CEST

You can't say he didn't fully commit!


         
roosfass, April 17, 2008 at 9:56:05 PM CEST

Its just a lot of costume changes with a bit of an art attack at the end. Not really sure what to make of it.


         
progosk, April 17, 2008 at 10:01:29 PM CEST

ditto the cap'n on all counts.


         
moonman, April 17, 2008 at 11:00:21 PM CEST

:D


         
prairie_oysters, April 17, 2008 at 11:41:08 PM CEST

"Ad agencies on the other hand, will eat this shit up."

Shit it out more like: www.youtube.com

This has to be one of the ugliest, most retarded and downright embarrassing videos in a long time. The final frame gag doesn't justify the amateurish dogs dinner that went before.


         
greenhouse, April 17, 2008 at 11:59:08 PM CEST

lost your sense of humour again prairie?


         
vidbot, April 18, 2008 at 12:39:52 AM CEST

Hahahahaha! Deaf, physically disabled, lower class and vertically challenged people are like sooooo funny! LOL!

Apart from the “Uh… they are like…ironic?” stereotypes and the wobbly, shoddy camera work, the end works…….

….if it's original.


         
lusk81, April 18, 2008 at 2:13:14 AM CEST

I really dig Moyes' work but this might be his worst yet....


         
as amsterdam, April 18, 2008 at 2:50:01 AM CEST

I think the only thing keeping this video off VH1 is the word "cocaine". This could easily be spun as 'a quirky salute to female empowerment'... on VH1. I certainly like the vocals on "I just don't wanna". I think Sia had some drug troubles earlier on that she has since dealt with. With that in mind, this looks more to me like a celebratory 'just-dont-give-a-fuck' now that she's more willing & able to walk away from people that just aren't any good for her. And Amen to that.


         
kalstark, April 18, 2008 at 3:08:25 AM CEST

I like the promo. I think that shooting this on film would have made all the difference in the world. As it is, it kind of feels cheap and almost too lo-fi and I think that's partially what those who don't like the video are reacting to.

I know the concept is meant to feel lo-fi and this can work in many promos of this style but it's just not vibing here. The more organic, smoother, richer look of film would have given this a more controlled and sophisticated air that would have announced, clearly, that everything else (the shoddy camera work, the gear in frame, etc) was part and parcel of a very deliberate and artistic effort. My <.02 worth.

K quick p.s. - After rereading my post, the above makes it sound like the lo-fi-ness doesn't come across as purposed. It does. However, something is definitely wrong here. I'm arguing that the big 'wrong' was in the choice of acquisition format.


         
kansas, April 18, 2008 at 3:10:42 AM CEST

i like, but i am a sucker for finding beauty in the ugly. For all of the 'ugliness' in this video there are some very classy compositions and the end frame is brilliantly designed.


         
wing, April 18, 2008 at 3:11:39 AM CEST

This is good. It's art direction is quite effortless and the looseness of the camerawork adds to its charms. Lots of detail and humour and Moyes isnt making Sia look ugly he makes her look hot.


         
mva, April 18, 2008 at 5:35:47 AM CEST

i agree. he is getting aggressively worse


         
najork, April 18, 2008 at 8:29:58 AM CEST

I find it hard to imagine this did not turn out exactly as intended. Seems silly to call it shoddy, though vidbot's perspective is interesting. I didn't find the various guises coherent enough to be stereotypical of anything, though fat suits are never a good idea.


         
matei-alexandru mocanu, April 18, 2008 at 12:13:56 PM CEST

bah. and i agree with kasltrak about format. film woulda been betta in this particular case


         
vidbot, April 18, 2008 at 1:46:18 PM CEST

I think the fact the we are (once again) debating the technical merits of a Moyes video shows that this simply doesn’t work as a coherent piece.

At its core filmmaking is craft no matter what you’re final aim. If you have the skill and talent to guide your viewers eye across the piece and communicate a vision you have succeeded.

Debates about the perceived “looseness” of the camera work and “effortless” art direction are pointless its just more mud in the water that obscures the fact that this simply doesn’t work or have anything to say beyond some comedy hour gag’s and “cool factor” art school irony.

Once again if this was an unknown director would anyone care?

I wonder if agencies even take his calls anymore…


         
sharpiesharpesharpe, April 18, 2008 at 2:04:03 PM CEST

this is soo aussie braa


         
shoplifter, April 19, 2008 at 1:38:36 AM CEST

moyes is a talented enough director to have made exactly what he wanted to make. if you don't like this or don't get it, then he would shrug and say who cares.


         
kappadonna, April 19, 2008 at 2:35:14 AM CEST

as per above, and above that. maybe its good that an aussie performer uses an aussie director to make an indelible aussie video. antville seems to have a certain aversion to kris moyes and ace norton which i really don't understand. they both have a genuine energy that i think is consistent with those that mvphiles hold dear?


         
wing, April 19, 2008 at 3:40:04 AM CEST

vidbot how can you say debates about the style of camera work and art direction are without merit!!? Whats the point of a forum like Antville then? That aside I disagree, i see references and influence in here from Little Britain, Korine, Olaf Bruening, Kath and Kym and it comes across as refreshing. I also see the actress at ease with some challenging direction and as a viewer I was really rewarded by the relationship between Sia and Moyes in this clip. Its subtle and obscure yes but thats what does it for me. If you cannot see beyond Moyes name or the fact that an artist maybe currently fashionable then why bother reponding to a video at all.


         
alexdecampi, April 20, 2008 at 12:19:05 PM CEST

I'm ambivalent about Kris Moyes but this video entertained me the whole way through. Interesting mashup of references from 80s TV, We Can Be Heroes (Aussie Little Britain-type show, only better:www.abc.net.au ), and Northern Renaissance grotesques and trompe l'oeil paintings: www.coolopticalillusions.com and web.mala.bc.ca )

Oh, and in my opinion the end art attack wouldn't have been nearly as effective if shot on film, which would have forced you to notice the depth; methinks it needs the infinite focus of a cheap digital lens to work.


         
matei-alexandru mocanu, April 20, 2008 at 12:58:42 PM CEST

i was so goddamn sure someone would evntually come up to bring up arcimboldo.

what is it with you people. can't a video just be plainly bad nowadays??

does it always have to stand on the shoulders of giants? does it ALWAYS have to reference something? or is it all this capture-the-reference-flag an excuse for name dropping?

this references this, and this reminds me of that, and this alludes to etc

fuck this shit. ps: i don't want to sound harsh but there's no way one should mix holbein with this video.


         
manchester, April 20, 2008 at 1:02:31 PM CEST

damn right matei!


         
kansas, April 20, 2008 at 1:33:49 PM CEST

i like this vid but i don't really see how it merits 30 something comments. Kris moyes was lucky to be signed doing what he does and is thus constantly bombarded by jealous onlookers. Generally australian music video budgets are chicken feed compared to the rest of the world and i think most of the time moyes does well to do what he does and presumably make a living off it.


         
alexdecampi, April 20, 2008 at 2:23:38 PM CEST

Matei, to me, this video isn't bad.


         
sharpiesharpesharpe, April 20, 2008 at 4:58:04 PM CEST

t'd be interesting to find out where this video was shot.

Even though Sia is an aussie, she hasnt actually marketed herself over here and i dont even know if her album was actually even officially released here?

I think shed be hooked up with a north american label and so therefore id imagine her budgets are slightly bigger than the meager local ones are.

anyone aware?


         
matei-alexandru mocanu, April 21, 2008 at 12:34:00 AM CEST

@alex i know you like it and maybe i didnt make myself understood so here it is (in a quiet voice this time)

when a blatant rip off emerges, it is the duty of the know-all confederacy of antvillers to start passing judgment on t.

but(what what in the)

when one watches a video intent on finding references, and influences, and whatnot - he is just lame.

in addition to this, every now and then, one feels the urge to brag about his knowledge of art history, ranging from piero della francesca to cattelan. goooood.

i am not saying its bad - fuck it, i sometimes indulge myself in such favorite pastimes as skimming thru art history encyclopedias (till i get kinda bored and tune in on spice platinum) but to compare a poor (in every sense of the word) video such as lisanowak, Thursday, 17. April 2008, 18:37 SIA - The Girl You Lost To Cocaine (Dir. Kris Moyes) to great masters of painting such as holbein & etc its blasphemous. it suggests that youre ither showing off, or that...i dunno

ps:or maybe its late and im still having a hard time with some pushed processed prints.

as friendly as they come, M


         
vidbot, April 21, 2008 at 7:19:00 PM CEST

I just watched Hot Chip "Boy From School" again...hmmmm

If this video is such a success then how come it aint here? www.kmoyes.com


         
wing, April 22, 2008 at 9:37:07 AM CEST

oh its there...


         
vidbot, April 22, 2008 at 10:38:04 AM CEST

Like magic!
















 

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