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antville Music Video Awards 2006

call for categories!


so, antville, what criteria should music videos be judged by? here's what's been suggested so far:

most fun
best new director
best low budget
worst (overhyped/lazy/derivative)
breakthrough
best art direction
best cinematography
best animation
best visual fx
best dancing
best narrative
best performance
shortest deadline
most calm/silent
best urban (r&b/hip-hop/rap)
best oblique/not-obvious treatment
most resourceful
best online video quality
best antville comment
biggest creative gamble/wtf-omg-roflcopter

post your own suggestions in the comments - the full list will then be polled to select the final ten.

ps: a proper logo and tagline would be nice, too...


         
captainmarc22, November 16, 2006 10:58:30 AM CET

how about.... best video of the year?

logo is dope.

tagline should be:
"Don't think we haven't noticed, Cathy Pellow"


         
benroll, November 16, 2006 12:36:58 PM CET

best dancing or best choreography?


         
kevathens, November 16, 2006 1:12:44 PM CET

Should it be 'Best oblique/not-obvious treatment'? I think that's what I meant


         
dek, November 16, 2006 1:49:44 PM CET

         
benroll, November 16, 2006 3:30:11 PM CET

best editing. Tricky to judge, since so much is contingent on what was shot.... but should probably be there amongst the categories.


         
terri, November 16, 2006 4:08:40 PM CET

How about 'Best New Category'


         
lusk81, November 16, 2006 4:39:38 PM CET

Best Low Budget is hard to judge as everything is low budget. Maybe it should be changed to best promo under 10k...? 5k?

I think captainmarc's tagline is right on.

And am I the only one a little vague on the following:

  • most calm/silent
  • best oblique
  • most resourceful
  • biggest creative gamble

         
boey, November 16, 2006 4:58:34 PM CET

Sounds good, but I think you should nix:

  • best dancing (pretty much included in rap/r&b section)
  • breakthrough/new director (keep only one unless breathrough refers to the band?)
  • shortest deadline (not really interesting topic and hard to know everyones)
    -most resourceful (thats part of low budget)
    -best online video quality? what?
    -biggest creative gamble (part of oblique treatment)

  • I agree to add best song video match

  • and how bout most Cliched video

         
progosk, November 16, 2006 5:09:40 PM CET

terri: "best recursive comment"

good to discuss these now.

there'll obviously be some finetuning of proposed categories - and then all of them will be polled; unpopular/obscure ones will drop by the wayside.


         
kevathens, November 16, 2006 5:10:42 PM CET

Isn't best song-video match another way of saying best video?


         
kevathens, November 16, 2006 5:20:10 PM CET

Oh, and for 'best oblique', I mean best unexpected treatment, best leftfield treatment. best treatment that came out of complete left field. etc etc - Needs work, I know. Most unexpectedly successful video? .. .. ..

How about Best Ringtone? ;)


         
goat, November 16, 2006 5:36:16 PM CET

contests suck...

how about "worst critic", "worst critique"

please do not include "touch the sky"


         
hakai, November 16, 2006 5:38:27 PM CET

For animation I think you should separate it in at least 2 categories. "Best Stop Motion" and "Best CG Animation" or something like that.

Or, "Best Hand Made Animation" and "Best Animation Assisted By A Machine That Is Evil And Will Destroy All Mankind In The Near Future"


         
hakai, November 16, 2006 5:46:24 PM CET

I got another one...

"Best Video Thats Not A Menudo Video"


         
hakai, November 16, 2006 5:49:22 PM CET

"Most Immature Antville Comment/Post"


         
progosk, November 16, 2006 7:04:20 PM CET
  • most blatant product placement

         
dek, November 16, 2006 7:22:33 PM CET

goat, what about "Best Video that has somthing to do, whatever you want, with Kayne West"?


         
spit, November 16, 2006 7:23:50 PM CET

I vote for less categories. Also, I think some of the 'film-school hour' categories like "best oblique", 'calm/silent', and "best online quality" are kind of silly. The tighter we can make the list, the more valuable and interesting it will be. Let's get rid of the ones that are too specific or seem like antville in jokes.


         
najork, November 16, 2006 7:29:08 PM CET

"biggest circle jerk"

Anyway, should there be 'body of work' categories? The hard-working directors or good-taste-having artists behind consistently solid videos, as opposed the odd lightning strike.

"Best animation" should be "best animated video." That would concern videos where the central focus is fabricated. "Best visual fx" would concern whatever is being used to augment the central footage. However, roto and stop-motion videos are sort of grey between the two.


         
progosk, November 16, 2006 7:34:24 PM CET

spit: yes, the idea is to narrow this list down to ten final categories by poll (which will appear in a separate post once suggestions here are all in).


         
spit, November 16, 2006 7:35:43 PM CET

My bad prog, I didn't read closely enough.


         
progosk, November 16, 2006 7:52:13 PM CET
  • best found footage video?

         
vs, November 16, 2006 8:08:18 PM CET

im with najork. it'd be great to give propers to a director/directors that have put out a ton of great shit this year. 'hardest worker' or something along those lines...


         
vs, November 16, 2006 8:27:54 PM CET

also, I think it's counter productive to have the 'worst' video category. I think anything with negative connotations is the opposite of what this community should be here for.

Sure it's fun to talk shit or whatever, but without a constructive aspect to a critique, I think it hurts more than helps.


         
kevathens, November 16, 2006 8:46:22 PM CET

naj/vs: Director of the year, is the name of that category. MVPA has the same category - I'm 100% for it


         
spit, November 16, 2006 9:16:17 PM CET

I agree with vs that any negative awards would seem snarky and lower the value of the awards overall. We should try to make it more than just an inside-joke fest. We should aim for something where the results could get posted elsewhere on the internet and would still be interesting to the uninitiated.


         
goat, November 16, 2006 9:58:25 PM CET

"I think anything with negative connotations is the opposite of what this community should be here for."

I agree with that quote, but I've read way more negative comments than positive ones on antville.

this competition is wrong!


         
kevathens, November 16, 2006 10:49:07 PM CET

Good point about worst video, actually. I wonder how it will fare in the vote.

We need to start talking DVD/logo/prize soon. Someone e-mailed me saying T-shirts would be nice. ???

Also, voting for categories isn't going to be easy in the antville polling system after all. You can only vote for one item. A comment-vote may be awkward, but it may be all we have. ??


         
progosk, November 16, 2006 11:39:22 PM CET

no problem with the polling: the post will contain X number of polls, each of which you can vote or not vote - it'll be up to everyone's scruples not to vote for more than ten of them (again, shouldn't be a problem).

oh, and: i love goat's suggestion for the tagline: "this competition is wrong!"


         
cutcutcut, November 17, 2006 12:08:01 AM CET

here are my suggestions:

biggest/best contribution/body of work for the entire year
best editing
best unknown

i agree that we shouldn't have a 'worst' award. utterly pointless
cheers


         
progosk, November 17, 2006 12:26:20 AM CET

best unknown what? band? director? cellphone the video was shot on?


         
davidbowie, November 17, 2006 2:12:09 AM CET

if you do this, antville will be quickly raided by every single PR department on music video earth. It will kill this site.

so why not!

hhahhaa


         
kevathens, November 17, 2006 2:20:27 AM CET

most underrated video


         
1manguy, November 17, 2006 3:34:05 AM CET

lifetime achievement award?
select a pioneering director who you would like to honor


         
carlosbravo, November 17, 2006 4:36:23 AM CET

costume design? does anyone care about that? i know there's an art direction category but...


         
iliketowatch, November 17, 2006 4:43:31 AM CET

does Best Performance mean best 'acting' or best 'performance video'?


         
cynic, November 17, 2006 6:44:39 AM CET

do the majority of you guys work in post?


         
progosk, November 17, 2006 8:38:15 AM CET

dbowie: hipvideos attempted to do this a while back. they lasted about a week.

best performance video, iliketowa (a category antville loves to hate...)


         
cutcutcut, November 17, 2006 11:02:20 AM CET

best unknown director - i.e. someone who is not signed, is not professional - who did it perhaps for his mate's band.

and i don't think the PR companies will effect anything. this is a public vote. if anything, it could restore power back to the people and make the PR/record companies sit up and take note - that you don't have to swamp a music video with close ups just to make it work.


         
kevathens, November 17, 2006 12:28:27 PM CET

How about 'best unsigned director'?


         
raymond_dezolay, November 17, 2006 1:22:43 PM CET

logo?


         
progosk, November 17, 2006 1:45:22 PM CET

more logos! (we'll poll those too!)


         
robodrug, November 18, 2006 1:22:34 AM CET

Logo - Its supposed to be an ant holding the 'Golden Ant' but it looks more like an anarchist bomb
Which may suggest a more militant subconscious desire than was first intended!


         
progosk, November 18, 2006 1:24:34 AM CET

the little ant's having one mighty crap!

nonetheless: post it to the call for logos.


         
robodrug, November 18, 2006 1:31:48 AM CET

Careful prog u might be feeling its crap splattering all over ur Barnett, as it mysteriously bounces off ur bonce!


         
adambiz, November 18, 2006 7:38:34 PM CET

Best music video blog (antville itself excluded), no?


         
captainmarc22, November 19, 2006 12:27:36 AM CET

category idea:

this might be messy/inappropriate but I would love to have a 'classic' category. Particularly those lost videos that popped up on youtube that are now brilliantly retro.

For example, I've watched Little Superstar more than any other legit music video this year. I feel it needs to be honored.

Maybe "Hall of Fame" which would be a tongue-in-cheek reference to these bizarre music videos. Or "Best Found video." Apache could be one. Average Homeboy. Etc...


         
justjoan, November 19, 2006 12:31:44 AM CET

how about

"most overlooked video"

i like the idea of doing best video categories for different budget levels. is it fair to compare a vid made for $25K to one made for $100K?


         
kevathens, November 19, 2006 12:33:34 AM CET

c-marc: 'best viral video' sounds right, no?

Someone e-mailed me saying the same thing about Captain Ahab: "I think i've watched this video more than any other this year." How about: 'most watched video'?? (though 'overlooked' might be something too..)

joan: name your categories, to put them on the ballot! Then convince your voters.. Though perhaps industry folk here can pitch in on the numbers??


         
progosk, November 19, 2006 12:53:46 AM CET

justj: insofar as overlooked=underrated, got it. not sure we'd ever get reliable info in order to do budget-tiered "best" awards...

cap'n: "classic" might mean too many different things (personally i'd associate it with "hall of fame" in a fairly non-tongue-in-cheek way).

"best found video" sounds interesting, and somewhat different from "viral" (okgo).

k: "most watched" is going to be very personal by definition - "most fun video" was an attempt at a more communicable version of that.


         
progosk, November 19, 2006 12:57:19 AM CET
  • best mashup video/video mashup

         
kalstark, November 19, 2006 8:32:46 PM CET

what does everyone think about:

Best Production Company

probably sounds weird at first but the intention is to choose
a) a prod. co. that has (over the year) consistently put out incredible work.
b) the company that has the highest level of creative/brilliant videos produced under it for the year.

i think it would be truly interesting to point out, to the video community, which prod. co.s consistently support and nurture brilliant vision. this category could even be helpful in aiding the 'about-to-be-signed' in choosing which company they want to go with.

thanks for your consideration,

kalstark
















 

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